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24-core AMD Ryzen 9 7950X spearheads alleged Raphael SKU price leak with Zen 4 preparing for Raptor Lake face-off

Started by Redaktion, May 19, 2022, 10:27:34

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Redaktion

A supposed AMD Ryzen 7000 "Raphael" price list has surfaced on Weibo, which also offers some scant details about the SKU designations and even core/thread count for the top-end part. Apparently, the Ryzen 9 7950X will have 24 cores, cost well over the equivalent of US$900, and it will be ready to bring Zen 4 power to Intel Raptor Lake's doorstep.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/24-core-AMD-Ryzen-9-7950X-spearheads-alleged-Raphael-SKU-price-leak-with-Zen-4-preparing-for-Raptor-Lake-face-off.620840.0.html

A creature

If it's true that the 7950X will have 24 cores then I can only hope that the lineup looks something like this

7950X: 24/48 (5.5ghz boost)
7900X: 16/32 (5.4ghz boost)
7800X: 12/24 (5.3ghz boost)
7600X: 8/16   (5.2ghz boost)

This would make a lot of sense considering the price hike over last gen

k

12 gen itself is mighty with memory bandwidth. it uses 4800mhz and i5 smokes down 5950x in euler 3d and other compute heavy software. once next gen intel with 8400mhz is out, AMD needs to check memory bandwidth, as memory choked processors will not benefit from mere processing power boost. dual channel on high core count is big pain. and dont know why you need that high core count for software not requiring memory bandwidth.

Anonymousgg

Quote from: A creature on May 19, 2022, 19:29:12
If it's true that the 7950X will have 24 cores then I can only hope that the lineup looks something like this

7950X: 24/48 (5.5ghz boost)
7900X: 16/32 (5.4ghz boost)
7800X: 12/24 (5.3ghz boost)
7600X: 8/16   (5.2ghz boost)

This would make a lot of sense considering the price hike over last gen

I feel like a 16-core wouldn't sell well next to a 24-core... you would just have power users skip from 12 straight to 24.

And maybe that's exactly what we're seeing here: 24-core 7950X, 12-core 7900X, 8-core 7800X which has already shown up in a benchmark leak, and the 6-core 7600X which is all most gamers actually need.

If AMD does a 24-core 7950X as the best of the best with 3 "perfect" chiplets, why bother with a 16-core with 2 "perfect" chiplets? It's in awkward position.

But the leak should be taken with a grain of salt. The clock speeds look suspicious too.

Quote from: k on May 20, 2022, 03:26:53
12 gen itself is mighty with memory bandwidth. it uses 4800mhz and i5 smokes down 5950x in euler 3d and other compute heavy software. once next gen intel with 8400mhz is out, AMD needs to check memory bandwidth, as memory choked processors will not benefit from mere processing power boost. dual channel on high core count is big pain. and dont know why you need that high core count for software not requiring memory bandwidth.

I don't think it's the problem you think it is. We're definitely going to see AMD put a 32-core on the AM5 socket with the same dual-channel DDR5, if not weirder core counts if they go big/small (like the rumored Zen 5 + Zen 4C).

It's already been shown that the 5800X3D is less sensitive to memory bandwidth (when everything goes right) because of its increased L3 cache. So V-Cache on Zen 4 models could prevent them from choking, although the rumor is that we will get no V-Cache at launch.

After that, AMD could try putting L4 cache on the I/O die.

bkydcmpr

I'd go with 7900X 16 core, if TDP is lower than the 24 core flagship, it should, and cheaper. Plus many programmers like myself are naturally attracted to the numbers are power of two.

Anonymousgg

Quote from: bkydcmpr on May 22, 2022, 04:17:02
I'd go with 7900X 16 core, if TDP is lower than the 24 core flagship, it should, and cheaper. Plus many programmers like myself are naturally attracted to the numbers are power of two.

They should make an 18-core. 3 chiplets, 2 cores disabled on each.

Peter del Rio

A 24 core, 48 core thread CPU running at +5ghz goes a long way to creating a great financial workstation and helps supplement the Threadripper running at slower speeds. In a true AI you need as many core threads as possible, running as fast as possible with as much L2 cache as possible.

One can only hope we don't have to wait() another year before before notify().

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