Tesla drivers and technicians have to face another instance of aggressive behavior towards the brand besides road rage incidents now, cord-cutting. A number of Supercharger stations on roads and wall boxes in parking garages have witnessed their cables being cut, but apparently not always for the copper in them.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-charging-stations-keep-getting-their-cables-cut-and-not-always-for-the-copper.618000.0.html
This maybe being done by stealerships ppl. Last time at a dealership the sal's ppl had real hatred about anything EV especially Tesla. That kind of mindset can easily lead to this type of vandalizim
Yup, people suck. This kind of thing doesn't surprise me at all, unfortunately.
Put a tamper "switch" in the cables, a wire that when cut causes an open circuit and kills a loopback signal, which triggers a camera to start recording and an alarm to go off (and preferably a massive electrical discharge to zap the offender, but stupid laws wouldn't allow that). Maybe it could cause a spray of ink like some fire alarms and theft tag do, to help identify the culprit. And it could activate a GPS locator in the cable, so they could be tracked. All of this would add to the cost of the chargers/cables, but not by much and I'm sure it would be cheaper than having to constantly replace them, not to mention hopefully catch some of these people.
Perhaps it is the actions of those who object to Musk taking ownership of Twitter?
Easy fix all ev carry there own charge cable. The charging stations only have a plug in to attach your cable to.
Not so easy for everyone to carry a cable that can carry 500 Amps . . . . most AC charging cables (eg 7 kW single phase) are rated at 32 Amps and some cables (eg 11 kW 3-phase) are only rated at 16 Amps . . . . and you need somewhere to store that 500 Amp cable which is like a salami sausage and does not coil up like a 32 Amp cable.
It is the same cynical people that roll coal Tesla cars.
SIMPLE;
TWO PLUGS ONE ,ON, THE CAR ,AND THE OTHER ONE, ON THE CHARGER,
CUSTOMER S BUY THEIR OWN CABLES,,,
The article mentions that it was the charging station outside the view of the security camera. The obvious solution is to ensure that all charging stations are within view of security cameras.
Considering how valuable they are, I would have thought this would be obvious 🤔
Unfortunate these RATS, Cancers to society can't be eradicated!
build ev stations without the need to carry cables inside the vehicle as the high speed cables cannot be rolled nor coiled up inside the trunk or anywhere inside the vehicle - so the idea that others expressed to carry cables inside the vehicle is counter-productive and unfeasible by design of any ev vehicle unless it is an ev pickup truck - nevertheless there is no need to re-invent already existing design for ev stations - simply do the same what gas pumps do - retract the ev cable like it is a gas hose that comes out of inside the gas pump - the ev stations just need to be taller with a cable housing above in the top of station so when you pull the cable out of the cable housing - it would come out with a spring that would automatically pull the cable back into housing when unplugged from the vehicle - more over the cable would never need to be dropped on the ground and/or wrapped around the ev station - as well as it does not have to damaged by any vehicle when it is dropped on the ground - even more it would be hidden inside its housing to prevent any sort of pull without the need to charge - or for the copper thief reason - or out of spite cut or tesla hater cut - or whatever! - to make a long story short even in starwars movies you can see they recharge their ev-based life support capsules via retractable cables to avoid people tripping on them if they were not retractable - basically, we have plenty of good examples how to design something that looking cool, super functional, and self-protecting from damages and thieves -
The solution is probably a retractable cord, or cord that is tucked into the station, and locked in place.
How are they not getting electrocuted? Does the charger cable not send power until plugged into the car? Perhaps they should make them send an extra jolt when they can sense someone cutting, to teach them a lesson and prevent them from doing it again 😂
This will just lead to gas station hoses cut.
He could easily institute cordless charging technology. The technology is already there with cell phone chargers.
Charging cables can be made from inexpensive aluminum. They just have to be heavy gauge to handle the amps, and sized to accommodate expansions.
I seriously think Tesla should be like Nio and have swappable batteries.
How about wireless chargers similar to like we use for cell phones but much larger and you just park your car over it?
Priceless. 8) ;)
I think cordless charging employs something called mutual inductance which is basically transmitting electricity through magnetism. I suspect it would take a long time to charge a traction battery that way. Unfortunately, more security cameras might be the best solution.
It's often just anti-EV vandalism. At my train station we have (had) free chargers. They were cable cut and they just left the cut side sitting on the ground by the charger to make their message clear.
To respond to the guy saying its the people rolling coal on Teslas, I own a 2016 model X p90d and its great, also 2 cummins trucks. I'll roll all the coal all over my own car when my wife is driving it, but I would never cut a charging cord. Plus both trucks get over 700 miles on a tank sooooo.......
I should think the abundance of evidence of alcohol consumption in the video of the LA garage goes a long way to explain the reasons behind this particular incident.
These "people" are dangerous and deranged. Now EVs are part of their idiotic "culture war"
We get it. You don't believe in climate change, or have endless rationalizations, you don't believe in pollution, or have endless rationalizations, you believe fossil fuel industry FUD because you're not very bright..... but LEAVE EV OWNERS ALONE.
As for the guy "rolling coal" who pretends he also owns a Tesla, thanks for spewing noxious black carcinogens into the local air. How much your PoS truck "gets on a tank" is irrelevant. The problem is how much poison it pumps into the air. But yeah yeah your freedum and blah blah private jets. We know.
Oh, you can't send 270kWh *wirelessly*, nor does it make any kind of sense to "build the cable into the car". How is a technical forum this dim?
I'm guessing it's the people who constantly profess peace and tolerance upset about Musk buying Twitter.
Quote from: Vanderwal on May 08, 2022, 22:10:52
Easy fix all ev carry there own charge cable. The charging stations only have a plug in to attach your cable to.
Which is probably why public AC chargers typically don't have cables. It's cheaper (it's actually a significant cost on those chargers) and eliminates the risk of cables being cut. But it's less convenient which is why my private charger does have a permanently attached cable. It sucks when you have to constantly pack and unpack cables.
But it's not really an option for high-power DC chargers. Those cables are expensive, thick, inflexible, heavy. And some of them are liquid-cooled.
Quote from: Dustin on May 09, 2022, 03:39:25
How are they not getting electrocuted? Does the charger cable not send power until plugged into the car?
Did you really think those cables are energized when not in use? Not only it has to be plugged in, it has to be locked in place to prevent removal while energized. Normally, equipment needing this much power would have to be hardwired.
Quote from: Jpage1 on May 09, 2022, 02:40:49
The solution is probably a retractable cord, or cord that is tucked into the station, and locked in place.
That only makes sense if you have to identify yourself before you can retrieve a cable. Then they have something to go on. But if all it takes is to train a camera on a charger to protect it, that might be the simplest and cheapest option, at least for DC chargers.
Quote from: Janon on May 09, 2022, 09:33:02
Oh, you can't send 270kWh *wirelessly*
Why exactly? Technically speaking, a transformer transfers power wirelessly. In a way, even a wire transfers power wirelessly. ;-) That's because energy is transferred through an EM field created by the movement of electrons inside the wire, not the electrons themselves (contrary to popular belief).
The problem with current technologies is that efficiency is just too poor. So, even if you could scale it up to 300 kW, you'd probably end up with more than 100 kW of waste heat. And unless your name is Nicola Tesla, distance is a problem.
The reason the cables at the LA charger were cut so long is because that's where the hacksaw could fit. It couldn't fit in that tiny gap to cut it closer.
Put the cables in an enclosure that's locked and only unlocks when your charging session is authenticated.
It's clearly copper thieves, they steal him out of the traffic lights too. You Tesla people are so pretentious you think people actually give a s*** about your stupid tesla, LOL nobody cares, just meth heads looking for some copper!
Dont tell people you dont care gas prices are high you have a tesla
I don't get it, the Tesla's have cameras in them for this exact reason. Why don't the superchargers? It can't cost that much.
Makes no sense, they should love electric car drivers. Less demand on gasoline supply lines, in turn lower demand keeps the price down or at least lower. Imagine if all the fully electric vehicles were gas....
They need to kick them in the Jimmy's and fune them so they can not afford to ever get out of debt. I got cought vandalizing as a teen, i learned. Maybe undervolt them...
A better idea is having the cable in the case of the unit until the account is authorized then it will be spun out.
Guys, of course the cables have power. The cables to the charger are always energized. The charger output is only controlled by the charger.
The cables are getting cut because they only charge Tesla. Every other electric charger charges all electric cars with an adapter. Electric car owners hate when the only available charger charges only Tesla if they own something else. On I95 in Connecticut at the service stations on the highway you can not charge anything but a Tesla. Does not work with my Nissan Leaf.
It is for the copper. People don't vandalize out of principle. Oakland? You know it for the copper. Anything of value not bolted is stolen. And even then. Obviously.
Looks to me like this charging station needs better security. How much trouble can it be to put an effective camera system on a vulnerable charging station? Might be time to stop skimping on security unless this property owner just REALLY likes paying for replacement copper cables.
Haha why post this on the internet now it's gonna be happening a lot more because people are think geez that's a good idea just like how in my town one guy was going around drilling holes in gas tanks and as soon as they said something about it the the radio hundreds more cars have started getting drilled
Sick leftists complot against Elon for not being a commie
Quote from: mark m kratter on May 09, 2022, 22:09:27
The cables are getting cut because they only charge Tesla.
You should realize that, when Tesla made its standard there were NONE others that could do what was needed, right? Multiple different, clumsy standards (CHAdeMO anyone?) that topped at least than half of the power of the very first chargers. Did you forget that Tesla offered both its standards and network to the rest? In this case it is the others not wanting to join, Tesla isn't the problem at all. In Europe Tesla could and did switch as that was later.
Bet the $5.00 + per gallon of diesel is starting to p*** off the A-Hole coal rollers now and they have to resort to other stupid tactics besides blocking the chargers or showing how to pollute the environment even more by blowing tons of crap in the air. If unemployment is an issue, get a job. Plenty of places are hiring. If drugs are the issue, get some help, if not, move to Florida, Texas or SoCal. If scrap buyers are arrested for buying things they know are stolen (catalytic converters anyone?) They should have their shops shut down for evidence. Nuff said.
Perhaps it's because poor people don't like Elon Musk? Everything Musk has done is for well heeled and rich yuppies (cybertruck to protect rich in apocalypse, mars colonies for millionaires etc). So understandable that underclass doesn't feel much warmth toward Musk and his companies.
Lefty loonytoons who can't handle free speech. They don't have an intelligent argument so they just want reality to be silenced. This way I hey don't seem to be as dumb as they really are.
Make the new chargers with a retractable cord that locks and unlocks when you put your credit card in.
1. Design a cable with proper warning labels and signage. Should be all that is needed as a deterrent.
2. Randomly make the cables with different codes so maintenance/installer will only know how to activate or deactivate in service. Then design the cable if cut will repeatedly deliver 100 Joules of stored energy. Will stop any animal but not kill them.
3. Assure proper grounding and Post a clear graphic indicating risk if cut.
4. Simple picture of electrical shock.