Quote from: RobertJasiek on Today at 13:01:14IYO, what bloat remains after your (insufficient?) debloating efforts?

The fact that you have to do various kinds of workarounds to use local account on installation ([email protected] still works in 24H2, tried it yesterday) is a forced bloat on its own. There is simply too much to list because everything not needed to operate is a bloat by definition. Tracking users' activities is a bloat; you can use ShutUp10++ and disable everything and W11 will still enable options on another update (literal bloat) so you have to disable them again just for some of them to still stay active (which you can verify with netstat -a and see what's calling where).

Quote from: RobertJasiek on Today at 13:01:14We need to await whether this can be deactivated by deactivating one or several Windows Services, group policy object settings or GUI settings. So far, nobody could say anything about such, if any, possibilities.

It can be turned off, it can't be removed so it stays there in the OS, thus again - literal definition of a bloat.

Quote from: Hotz on Today at 13:11:29Haven't looked up anything else, but these many incompatibilities are exactly the reason why I wouldn't buy a Qualcomm PC now. This surely needs to mature first.

Yep, this. Or simply use Linux once the updated kernel is ready (and Qualcomm works on that). Until we see reviews this seems like a perfect Linux chip but far from perfect Windows chip, that alone says more about the OS than the chip though.

Also... Half-Life 2 -> Unplayable.

which otherwise runs on every Linux system, and potato computers.


Haven't looked up anything else, but these many incompatibilities are exactly the reason why I wouldn't buy a Qualcomm PC now. This surely needs to mature first.

Just checked the site, for some of the games I actively play. People have a very loose definition of "perfect".

For example:

• Age of Empires 2 DE runs at 24.82 fps (need 45 minimum)
• Counter Strike 2 runs at 75 fps (need 120 minimum)

Both are clearly not playable at that level of performance, especially not Counter Strike 2 where frame timings are horrendous and average od 75 is around 20 fps 1% lows. There is more but I'm lazy to keep listing because it's all 20-50 fps nonsense categorized as "perfect". Right...

Quote from: Neenyah on Today at 12:41:42Windows 11 [is] extremely bloated even if you debloat everything down to nothing

IYO, what bloat remains after your (insufficient?) debloating efforts?

QuoteRecall [...] 'AI Explorer,' [...] will be bloated even more like it or not.

We need to await whether this can be deactivated by deactivating one or several Windows Services, group policy object settings or GUI settings. So far, nobody could say anything about such, if any, possibilities.