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Title: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: Redaktion on March 04, 2020, 00:41:21
We just received the entry-level spec SLU of the brand-new Dell XPS 13 9300. The highlight is the return of the 16:10 display, but the processor performance is worse compared to the previous model.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-13-9300-with-bright-16-10-display-but-disappointing-CPU-performance.455311.0.html
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: weystrom on March 04, 2020, 00:48:33
1. Can you open in with one hand?
2. Coil whine?
3. DPC latency?
4. Are you going to review the i7 4k unit later?
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: Cool Man on March 04, 2020, 00:53:45
Make sure your using the high performance power plan in Dell's power command software, it makes a ton of difference when benchmarking.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: trenzterra on March 04, 2020, 01:15:11
I notice some users report problems attaching an eGPU or TB3 monitor to the laptop. Are you able to test this?

Also, any issues with modern standby or sleep mode on this device? Is there s3 sleep?
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: william blake on March 04, 2020, 06:51:59
uncomplete.
anyway, xps line overrated.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: _MT_ on March 04, 2020, 12:19:43
1920x1200 is called WUXGA, not FHD+. As I understand it, the plus means that the display has 1080 lines (in landscape orientation, that's what the FHD brings) but is wider than 1920 (that's the plus). Which is not this case at all.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: weystrom on March 04, 2020, 14:02:37
I browsed Geekbench a little bit for evidence, I see 9300 is on par with 7390 and 9370 (Comet Lake 4core), but I guess one run is not a good data point.

I can't post links, but just use these result ids:
7390 2in1 same i7 - geekbench/1357459
9370 4core Comet Lake i7 - geekbench/1327522
9300 4core Ice Lake i7 - geekbench/1343160
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: Frank_0123 on March 04, 2020, 15:29:55
Should i buy the new XPS13 or an equivalent macbook?
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: william blake on March 04, 2020, 15:46:35
Quote from: Frank_0123 on March 04, 2020, 15:29:55
Should i buy the new XPS13 or an equivalent macbook?
dell is one of the oems.
apple is a religion.
so this question makes no sense, you either religious or not, you should know better :)
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: fozzybear on March 04, 2020, 21:58:45
Please report on any coil whine
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: pinoteres on March 05, 2020, 21:20:12
Any idea when they are going to drop 32GB RAM Developer Edition?
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: DrBlues on March 06, 2020, 10:44:20
I'm really curious about the existence of coil whine, thermals, the wifi performance, and comfort with the trackpad. I'm coming from a Macbook to a Windows laptop and am looking into this, so I'd really like to make an informed decision.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: Dannisha on March 06, 2020, 17:48:32
How the hell can you compare i5-1035G1 against i7-8585u ?!?

You have to test the i7-1065G7 against i7-8585u if you want fair fight!

This decision is VERY unprofessional.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: Doof on March 07, 2020, 15:05:33
Quote from: william blake on March 04, 2020, 15:46:35
Quote from: Frank_0123 on March 04, 2020, 15:29:55
Should i buy the new XPS13 or an equivalent macbook?
dell is one of the oems.
apple is a religion.
so this question makes no sense, you either religious or not, you should know better :)
This is a pretty funny statement to me, since the base model MacBook Pro (with a design introduced in 2016 and a 8th gen CPU) already beats this brand new XPS in many areas (performance, trackpad, audio, a WORKING sleep mode) and will soon be completely updated with a whole new design.

To me, it looks like Dell tried to completely emulate Apple with this device (the hinge is pretty much a copy of the one introduced in MacBooks in 2016 while the 16:10 screen, the quiet fan and the higher price complete the package), but apparently the result is a bit disappointing.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: william blake on March 07, 2020, 17:35:25
Quote from: Doof on March 07, 2020, 15:05:33
This is a pretty funny statement to me, since the base model MacBook Pro (with a design introduced in 2016 and a 8th gen CPU) already beats this brand new XPS in many areas (performance, trackpad, audio, a WORKING sleep mode) and will soon be completely updated with a whole new design.
now listen :)
apple broke marketing laws and human brain.
before jobs: prestigious meant something rare and expensive.
after jobs: prestigious means the same as everyone else and affordable.
apple logo and brand is all that matters.
so, most of apple users are brainwashed illogical zombies. it has noting to do with quality. lets say mercedes cars are better than nissan, but there is no zombies on car market, people are fine with nissan.
i like some apple products but there is no chance i'd buy them. because it's a shame. people would think i am a braindead dork. :)
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: Doof on March 07, 2020, 18:35:14
Quote from: william blake on March 07, 2020, 17:35:25
Quote from: Doof on March 07, 2020, 15:05:33
This is a pretty funny statement to me, since the base model MacBook Pro (with a design introduced in 2016 and a 8th gen CPU) already beats this brand new XPS in many areas (performance, trackpad, audio, a WORKING sleep mode) and will soon be completely updated with a whole new design.
now listen :)
apple broke marketing laws and human brain.
before jobs: prestigious meant something rare and expensive.
after jobs: prestigious means the same as everyone else and affordable.
apple logo and brand is all that matters.
so, most of apple users are brainwashed illogical zombies. it has noting to do with quality. lets say mercedes cars are better than nissan, but there is no zombies on car market, people are fine with nissan.
i like some apple products but there is no chance i'd buy them. because it's a shame. people would think i am a braindead dork. :)
Ok, now you listen.
I don't give a damn about what other people buy and why, I just look at the product and at what it offers to me. Sometimes Apple products provide a better (to me) user experience, sometimes they don't.

Saying "I don't buy Apple because stupid people do it" doesn't make much more sense than saying "I buy Apple because the logo is cool" IMHO.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: Bb2k on March 15, 2020, 02:03:27
+1 for details of the 32gb developer edition and/or the i7 variant. (Or even Linux compatibility of the windows version..)

Comparisons Vs the ThinkPad T14 or X1 would be interesting.

And an opinion on the new keyboard!
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 with bright 16:10 display, but disappointing CPU performance
Post by: papasmiles on April 17, 2020, 19:01:43
Does anyone know the actual brightness of the 4K version? I know that they state 500 nits, but I have learned that is just a guide. thanks.