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HP Envy 15 2020: First impressions with HP's new multimedia laptop

Started by Redaktion, July 13, 2020, 21:11:17

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abby

Can you clarify by what is meant by this "However, we did not choose an RTX 2060 option as HP rates these for significantly shorter runtimes than the GTX 1660 Ti model."

Why is the 2060 have a shorter runtime?

Peterek

Is there 'insert' button on the keyboard? I don't see it on photos (or is it hidden under some fn switch)

and1or2

This Laptop is completely incompatible with linux. At least the top model with 2x 1TB HDDs. It is in RAID mode by default and you cannot change to AHCI in the BIOS since, for some ridiculous reasons, HP locked all advanced BIOS settings. So Linux won't detect your harddrives.

MaxClyde

What is the refresh rate of the display? I can't find it anywhere. Not sure if I've missed it but I've googled it and haven't found it either.

Damian Xavia

Due to the pandemic, the world has seen a slowdown in production of all technology & hardware, (everything really) but such as laptops, tablets, printers etc

When the world went into lockdown, organisations & businesses & most of all charities, bought up all of the stock.

They went in & bought up all the laptops & tablets & mostly, certainly the best ones!

It is one thing for businesses to go out spending tens of thousands, buying up the world's stock of laptops, tablets & printers but for charities to do it, it tells people a lot about the world itself.

It demonstrated an ethos mentality of "everyone for themselves".

It is not just about the fact that they buy all of the laptops, tablets etc, it is the fact that charities who are given thousands for a particular reason, going out & spending tens of thousands on high-end laptops & tablets, to a point, they wiped the store shelves of supplies.

They didn't buy the cheap low-end laptops or tablets, unless that was all the shop had to offer!

They bought all the high-end laptops & tablets, leaving the stocks within shops, depleted, using the money donated to those charities for something else.

( FOR THEMSELVES)!

You imagine one charity buying 10 laptops at 2,500 each, that is 25,000 & you can be sure that those laptops will not go back to the offices of those charities, one of two things will happen (explained later).

The people who govern those charities should have bought cheap laptop or tablets, that were sufficient to do a job.

Not spend money given to them for a designated reason & use it for something else, such as buying all the high-end laptops, tablets for themselves to use at home & more than likely be able to keep it for themselves when the pandemic is over (but that's just a theory & maybe in time the media will jump on the story & answer the question)?

There is two points to me actually explaining all this to you:

1. The factors of the world showing an all for themselves mentality & it wasn't just toilet rolls they stripped the shop shelves bare of.

It was high-end laptops, tablets, printers, you name it, for their homes, for themselves!!

They thought about themselves & stripped those shelves bare!

They cannot also claim that they did their jobs from home, some people, maybe.

A lot of them didn't, they might take the high-end laptops, tablets & printers but that doesn't mean to say they're all working at home, doing their job at home, some people yes but all people, no!

An all for me & none for you mentality, showing everyone their true charitable ethos, which we found out was actually far from charitable!

It would have been more charitable to use that 25,000 & buy 50 low-end laptops, for people who were not online, that's charity! 

There were many people who were disabled or elderly who are not online & could have benefited greatly considering the isolation they endured & I mean REAL ISOLATION not PRETEND ISOLATION with the family because being with your family, isn't isolation, being alone is!

I mean at the beginning of a pandemic, you don't rush out & buy 10 laptops at 2,500 each, as a business or charities because at that stage age no one really knew really what was happening!

But as a charity, the first thing you'd be thinking about is the people that you represent! #clearlynot

2. The realism for people, the consumer, is that you are going to find it very difficult to get exactly what you want as far as laptops or tablets are concerned for the foreseeable future.

Because more than likely they're sitting in the homes of businesses & charities, the people who stripped all the shelves bare of all the technology, as well as the toilet rolls.

By my post & what I'm saying to you, "it is coming to the end of 2020 & you're better off, hanging on & waiting for 2021.

The likelihood in December 2020 stocks may replenish for Christmas, but I'd say, wait for 2021 & keep your ears to the floor.

So that you can find out what the latest technology in regards to laptops & tablets will be in 2021 (release dates, what's coming etc) & if you can hang on, wait & see if there's any new models coming out in 2021 before you buy.

Don't forget the January sales, don't forget there will be new models being released.

You don't want less than a 16 RAM ANYTHING, you don't want anything less than, 1T of storage.

A lot of the technology is moving forward, away from hard drive technology, to fluid transferable technology.

What I'm basically saying is "if you can hold on & you're not in a hurry to buy, then I would wait till 2021 before buying a new laptop or tablet.

Technology wise, anything below 16 RAM in reality, is not a good performer.

When you think that technology is moving to a more fluid technology, it's important that you have specifications with a certain capability & 16 RAM has that capability!

The reason you will need large storage is, with fluid technology, you're going to have to be able to store items which benefit you & your life & lifestyle or work life.

When you take into consideration photos games, music etc, even 2T storage is not a large quantity of storage, in a not so distant future, when you consider the storage you will need for future downloads etc.

I mean any other day of the week 1T of storage Is massive, but if you look at how designers of laptops are taking away the hard drive, THAT IS SYMBOLIC.

It demonstrates that they are going to make laptop technology more fluid, even to a point, you may think you can download what you need, then delete it, but that's not always an option!

Sooner or later it will happen, laptops will come out, with a storage capability of 10T.

1000 megabytes is a gigabyte, 1000 gigabyte is a terabyte & when you consider an average CD of music to be stored on your laptop, for you to play, that is some MB.

Maybe you don't value a music & prefer downloading them to your laptop is better for you but you're still storing them & music CDs are just an example or music downloads.

There are going to be other things that you have to take into consideration when storage is the issue.

Like photos which take up MB, videos etc & for a laptop, the demands for storage in the future are going to be so large, that a laptop will have to have a storage capacity that outweighs any laptop on the market, at the moment.

Of course you can store files or use the cloud but that's still limited or a never-ending stream of creating a file, downloading the file onto a storage device, then wiping the file off the laptop, but at the end of the day, unless you're going to download the file to a storage device each time & delete it off your laptop each time, you'll soon run out of space!

if's & &'s & pots & pans!

But when you're doing it, day in & day out, you'll understand what I mean!

Everyone knows, once the storage capacity reaches it's maximum volume on any PC, laptop or tablet, performance is affected!

One of the main points, I want to make about waiting until 2021 to buy new laptop.

You have to consider the way that many businesses & charities went in & strip shop shelves bare of laptop & tablets & the possible deal they made with the retailer in regards to buying so many laptops.

We as consumers are unaware whether the charity or the businesses negotiated a deal with retailers, that at the end of a pandemic, the laptops that were bought, can be returned!

So, that would mean, they'd be returned, cleaned, basically made to look brand new, refurbished is the word!

The businesses maybe came to an agreement of leasing them for the length of the pandemic, but they could return them at the end, to be refurbished & to be resold to the consumer!

I've given you a lot of information to think about & I believe that everyone should have the full information when making a decision about anything they're going to buy.

Particularly if there's a lot of money involved.

I don't always believe that people are honest & I believe that the consumer could end up paying the price, for a refurbished laptop!

It is debatable but not impossible & if you're asking my honest advise, I would consider that!

If you're not bothered & want to make a purchase of a laptop now, don't buy anything less than 16 RAM, simply doesn't cut it in the 21st century, 2020 to 2021.

If you're looking for a laptop, make sure it's got 16 RAM & always look at the storage capacity, you want at least 1T, you also need an i7 core processor.

There is the availability of a i9 processor but the difference between the i7 & i9 processor is insurmountable & therefore I would just go with the i7 because more doesn't always mean better!

The difference between i7 & i9 is roughly 200, hardly worth the bother.

I'm basically saying "patience is a virtue" & I'd wait.

If you look at the specs on a gaming laptop, the RAM very important in regards to giving it the ability to have a fluid ever changing gaming experience & therefore, people have to understand it's important to have at least 16 RAM.

It's more powerful to have HP Envy with a 16 RAM than a Microsoft Office Pro 7 with an 8 RAM & I could have chosen any model to make that point!

But there are laptops out there with 32 RAM + & with i9 processor, which is no better than i7 & there are also 2T of storage in models now.

But the basic factor for anyone buying a laptop is:

• 16 RAM or above
• At least 1T of storage
• i7 Core processor

Those are the things I would recommend you look at when choosing to buy a laptop.

But let me also remind you that laptops are phasing out hard drives, so you better be ready & make your decision now, because in the future you won't have the choice!

You do have the choice of buying a portable hard drive.

But when you think of compact & portable, carrying around a laptop, a hard drive etc, it becomes less portable than one would imagine!

Food for Thought

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Damian Xavia

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