According to tipster Dusk Golem, the PlayStation 5 might end up facing the Xbox One's launch conundrum: running slower and costing more than the competition. This could be due to Microsoft's greater ability to absorb manufacturing costs. If the PlayStation 5 does indeed cost more, platform exclusives could become even more relevant differentiators.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tipster-claims-that-the-PlayStation-5-will-cost-more-and-perform-worse-than-the-Xbox-Series-X-Resident-Evil-Village-could-run-at-a-mere-1080p-60.484874.0.html
Stop talking out your a**
Xbox has trash exclusives. No chance
In other news, many people fall into a coma after reading a tipster article. 😴
is this Microsoft trying to get something under their belt after the disastrous halo infinite show.
The one that ran terribly and won't support Ray tracing until a update after launch?
Imagine telling your mates about your amazing new Xbox and then they say that they're going home to play God of War on their PS5 and you walk home with your head in your hands. It's for this reason and many other great games that we use playstation.
Glad to at least see some common sense prevail in the comments section, this "author" has no idea. As it stands, the PS5 is already miles ahead of the Xbox Series X. And to suggest the Xbone outperformed the PS4? You're kidding, right?!
Salty ps fan boys. Makes me laugh hard, face it the ps5 is less powerful deal with it. Gonna cost more , deal with it.
No surprises. We've heard the same info for a while.
Bottom line is im an xbox fan and im not going to be a hater and bash Sony end of the day whatever consoles you like just enjoy.
The PS4 Pro had 4.2 tflops while the Xbox One X had 6. Xbox has always since the dawn of time had more power. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. There is nothing my Pro can do that my X can't. These attempts to dowwnplay the other consoles are pathethic and will in no way factor into the final result. This article is a terrible attempt at provoking feud.
I wonder if the PS5 will explode trying to play Cyberpunk 2077 above 1080p?
No. No it wont.
This is simply not true, and anyone developing on the hardware knows this.
The ps5 will be a better console backwards compatible all the way down to ps1 games they just want to be on top for once will no chance Xbox fucking shity a** console.
Quote from: Conor on August 10, 2020, 14:47:50
The PS4 Pro had 4.2 tflops while the Xbox One X had 6. Xbox has always since the dawn of time had more power. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. There is nothing my Pro can do that my X can't. These attempts to dowwnplay the other consoles are pathethic and will in no way factor into the final result. This article is a terrible attempt at provoking feud.
Actually, the defining factor this generation was the lack of power of the original Xbox One coupled with the fact it was USD$/€100 more expensive than the original PS4. That double-whammy made the platform very unappealing in the early days, both for consumers as the software houses developing the games (i.e., lower install base == less motivation to spend resources in that platform). I agree with you that these attempts to downplay the competitors hardware are pathetic, but facts are still facts. No one, other than Microsoft itself, would ever spend the time properly optimizing for the One X because (1) this is a money making business and (2) once the original PS4 got its win without much dispute the economics of designing games specifically for the power advantage of One X just weren't there.
I might even argue that we may see the same thing with the PS5, if it sells much better than the XSX then no one will care to take advantage of the extra power. It's just business.
i see a lot of people on here posting comments on a topic they know nothing about. sorry but the ps5 is not miles behind the xbox series x like some user claimed and the ps5 is not backwards compatible to ps1 like some other used claimed its only to ps2 while the series x goes all the way to the original xbox. and when it comes to pwere xbox has always been more powerful does that make a difference yes it does
I wil renovate my walls and by it someday when price will drop.
Its so funny this gen the ps fan boys were talking trash when the original xbox one came out, the PlayStation is more powerful has more teraflops bla bla bla, now the tables have turned and all they wont to do is deny it or bang on about god of war.
Thank goodness I'm not an f-boy with a sticker on my hat and Monster energy drink cans littered around my feet. I'm a gamer. I care about good games, and Playstation has that over Xbox in spades. So what if multiplatform games run slightly better on Xbox than Playstation? PS5 loads content almost twice as fast as Xbox, which opens doors to some crazy possibilities and experiences for the ever-growing list of epic Playstation exclusives. There is a reason Unreal Engine 5 was showcased on PS5 and not Xbox. Playstation is for gamers. Xbox is for f-boys who wank over CoD and meh Halo games. The 360 > PS3 IMO, but Xbox has been going downhill since. I'm looking forward to Fable, Forza and FlightSim, but if I can play them on PC without buying an Xbox I can't see why I would ever buy one.
Nobody knows how it performs o either console except game devs testing their builds of the games on each platform, which I doubt your sources got the info from considering their both a few months away from release.
Unless you can tell me in plain black and white terms what gerafloos mean and how they impact performance, I dont care and neither should anybody else.
At the end of the day its whatever console you like, doubt anybody really cares too much.
It's hardly like the ps5 9s gonna be slow lol, both are gonna be miles ahead the previous gen so it foesnt matter at all, differences are the exclusive games and that's all really.
So this person definitely knowsthat one console will be more expensive than the other. Yet they cannot give us a definitive pricerice? That just puts the credibility of their whole post in question.
This just shows this site is quick to post articles without checking the source.
That same leaker took back what he said after a couple of minutes.
He said that the PS5 version will run in 4k/60(not native).
Microsoft is no longer fighting Sony on console level. Microsoft is thinking ahead. Their game pass is their actual product, the ability to play all games irrespective of platform of choice (PC, Xbx, xcloud) is going attract millions of new players to Xbox live platform. Sony WILL die before they make a game pass like service which offers access to ALL of their games from day one. Its just not their business model and cannot fight Microsoft on that level since Microsoft specializes in data and cloud tech. What this Netflix type service is also going to do is encourage better cross platform games development and at the same time attract more developers, that is if Microsoft really follows what Netflix does and that is pay upfront bulk amount to developer and reap break even and profits over time through subscribers rather than traditional Sony like business model of number of copies sold base their profit off agreed percentages
I don't believe you. I will wait. This source is ridiculous!
Typical Americans. Whining about PS might cost more than the Xbox "deal with it" - I am more than willing to spend more on a system that is better designed for its purpose - and that is to run good games. Good games like, God of war, Nioh, most likely ghost of tsushima sequels, TLOU sequels, uncharted, the list just goes on and on. Only suckers would cough up money to MS for a console where the games can be played on PC. Typical MS though, they never really cares about quality content, profit is what matters first, which is why their content is generic and bland.
Trolls are not sources
bullshit. If ps5 runs at 1080 60 then what do they expect a 1. Something TF difference to make in contrast? Baring in mind a TF is not a 1:1 unit of measurement and shouod never be used to gauge power at face value. The ps5 is plenty capable to deliver on its promises and the dynamic frequency just gives the system more headroom to play with if games need a boost in a certain area. Also, GPUs never work at 100% all the time and this frees up resources elsewhere as to eliminate thermals being a potential bottleneck. With that said, if the dev is having issues, then that says nothing about the hardware, but this is especially laughable considering that ps5 will be just as easier, if not outright easier than ps4 to develop for. It seems at least the RE engine isn't optimised for ray tracing or any next gen feature. Regardless, why anyone would take this seriously is beyond me, especially when PS5 has more GPU headroom due to that boost capability and the fact it won't always need to run at 100%.
Console fanboys debating what's better when PC gamers have enjoyed these enhancements for 10yrs lol. I'm buying a ps5 but later in the life cycle when I feel I need to buy one and my Xbox series x? I might get the digital version to take on the road. Since I normally play destiny 2, any Halo and division.
I'll still be going for the PS5, the differences between the two consoles are probably going to be tiny and I will NEVER buy a Microsoft product.
When I read this I thought it be funny. No it's not funny but just down right stupid. Who even considered that person to give you a tip. If you want the truth ask the main source next time. It really doesn't matter on the price as Sony PlayStation makes all the consoles in Japan it's why the use get the systems way before anyone else. Now the way things are we won't know when Japan release date or the global release date. Until then it won't matter. It will just be another wait on this person says what. I bet they will be the same price. If the both wanted to be different why would it matter. If the ps5 is going to be weaker they could sell the digital for 299 and the disc slot for 399 to 499. Yet I doubt that will have with Xbox as well. Neither one will go as low as 199. The highest is 499. The lowest is 299. So there you go. Easy price ranges just hold 530$ and you could preorder either one of these new systems.
Anything from resetera should be ignored. They are trash. They want nothing more than to burn the industry because of "toxic" gamers.
Quote from: Idx on August 11, 2020, 12:18:49
Typical Americans. Whining about PS might cost more than the Xbox "deal with it" - I am more than willing to spend more on a system that is better designed for its purpose - and that is to run good games. Good games like, God of war, Nioh, most likely ghost of tsushima sequels, TLOU sequels, uncharted, the list just goes on and on. Only suckers would cough up money to MS for a console where the games can be played on PC. Typical MS though, they never really cares about quality content, profit is what matters first, which is why their content is generic and bland.
Keep your racist comments to yourself. If you have disagree with people griping about price, fine. Argue the point. But don't generalize. It makes you look like an idiot even if your other points are good.
I can confirm without a doubt that Xbox does not have "generic and bland" games. This is coming from someone with both consoles but consider my PS to be my primary one. "Generic and bland" is a phrase you heard on the internet. Try be more original if you are going to attempt to downplay a "rival" console.
Performance won't really matter, because on consoles games get made and optimized for the system. And multiplatform titles get developed for the weakest platform, so at best XB would get maybe few optional tweaks. Still they should be close enough to where it won't matter badly.
Price wise, Sony could afford it. They are undisputed winner of current generation, which already tells you how much specs matter, or rather don't. Sure One X did good, but it didn't help MS winning. Plus Don't does have exclusives on their side, while MS exclusives can be played on PC as well. But if they do go higher or same as Series X with price, they might get bit of disadvantage there. But all things considered, it might still end up doing fine.
Though I still think next gen will be fought out mainly on features, be it what console can do or extra stuff like Game Pass, one if things MS nailed really well. Plus it will be battle of different approaches, Sony's exclusivity and old school of doing things, versus MSes ecosystem approach of getting games to gamers where they want them, PC, console or cloud, which is more of new way.
Though there is one thing MS could do to kill it in this generation. Put full version of Windows on XBSX, so you can boot into console or basically desktop. That would be huge deal, since now XBSX would be pre-built PC or console. Also it would go miles in convincing parents, use it as family computer and computer for school in Windows and as gaming console in free time. Plus you could use Windows got titles where you can exceed FPS on console and console version where you might struggle, so it is optimized for the system for you. But of course I doubt hey will do it. However it would be killer feature.
The consoles are close to release and the obvious is starting to hit home. It's clearly not what Sony fans want to hear despite it being what most people knew all along.
3rd party Multiformat titles will always look and run best on the most powerful system, did anyone really believe otherwise :p
Quote from: SethNW on August 11, 2020, 19:19:33
Performance won't really matter, because on consoles games get made and optimized for the system. And multiplatform titles get developed for the weakest platform, so at best XB would get maybe few optional tweaks. Still they should be close enough to where it won't matter badly.
Price wise, Sony could afford it. They are undisputed winner of current generation, which already tells you how much specs matter, or rather don't. Sure One X did good, but it didn't help MS winning. Plus Don't does have exclusives on their side, while MS exclusives can be played on PC as well. But if they do go higher or same as Series X with price, they might get bit of disadvantage there. But all things considered, it might still end up doing fine.
Though I still think next gen will be fought out mainly on features, be it what console can do or extra stuff like Game Pass, one if things MS nailed really well. Plus it will be battle of different approaches, Sony's exclusivity and old school of doing things, versus MSes ecosystem approach of getting games to gamers where they want them, PC, console or cloud, which is more of new way.
Though there is one thing MS could do to kill it in this generation. Put full version of Windows on XBSX, so you can boot into console or basically desktop. That would be huge deal, since now XBSX would be pre-built PC or console. Also it would go miles in convincing parents, use it as family computer and computer for school in Windows and as gaming console in free time. Plus you could use Windows got titles where you can exceed FPS on console and console version where you might struggle, so it is optimized for the system for you. But of course I doubt hey will do it. However it would be killer feature.
I suggest you wait for Digital Foundry do head to head comparisons on Multiformat titles.
The Series X will win Higher Resolution, Real Raytracing and Higher Framerates.
Reality will be here soon.
Quote from: TowerPower on August 11, 2020, 20:21:06
Quote from: SethNW on August 11, 2020, 19:19:33
Performance won't really matter, because on consoles games get made and optimized for the system. And multiplatform titles get developed for the weakest platform, so at best XB would get maybe few optional tweaks. Still they should be close enough to where it won't matter badly.
Price wise, Sony could afford it. They are undisputed winner of current generation, which already tells you how much specs matter, or rather don't. Sure One X did good, but it didn't help MS winning. Plus Don't does have exclusives on their side, while MS exclusives can be played on PC as well. But if they do go higher or same as Series X with price, they might get bit of disadvantage there. But all things considered, it might still end up doing fine.
Though I still think next gen will be fought out mainly on features, be it what console can do or extra stuff like Game Pass, one if things MS nailed really well. Plus it will be battle of different approaches, Sony's exclusivity and old school of doing things, versus MSes ecosystem approach of getting games to gamers where they want them, PC, console or cloud, which is more of new way.
Though there is one thing MS could do to kill it in this generation. Put full version of Windows on XBSX, so you can boot into console or basically desktop. That would be huge deal, since now XBSX would be pre-built PC or console. Also it would go miles in convincing parents, use it as family computer and computer for school in Windows and as gaming console in free time. Plus you could use Windows got titles where you can exceed FPS on console and console version where you might struggle, so it is optimized for the system for you. But of course I doubt hey will do it. However it would be killer feature.
I suggest you wait for Digital Foundry do head to head comparisons on Multiformat titles.
The Series X will win Higher Resolution, Real Raytracing and Higher Framerates.
Reality will be here soon.
You are right in saying it will be more powerful yeah but in the end will it matter? How many people have an 8K/120 Hz TV ready to go. Sure the XBOX has a larger( not by alot either)amount of power but what good is it if 10% of people can utilize it. (10% is just a guesstimate. You know what I mean) :)
tipster? it's been long well known about the raw power of ps5 being under the xbox series x. but guess what. it's about games at the end of the day.
All I have to say is. Last of us 2, ghost of tsushima, horizon zero dawn, god of war uncharted 4, and more. All those games were gorgeous and ran just fine to enjoy without any complaints.k. Guess what? That was all done one 4 teraflops lol. We're talking about more than twice the power of ps4 pro and 100x th read/write speed. What are we even talking about here?
All I have to say is. Last of us 2, ghost of tsushima, horizon zero dawn, god of war, uncharted 4, and more. All those games were gorgeous and ran just fine to enjoy without any complaints. Guess what? That was all done on 4 stinking teraflops lol. We're talking about more than twice the power of ps4 pro and 100x the read/write speed and way better abilities for creating newer games and tools. What are we even talking about here ? Who cares if it's little slower than Xbox X. What does Xbox X even have to offer as far as games ? A quantum computer puts Xbox x and ps5 to shame but you know what? There are no games on there so I don't want it lol. The reason why people want a ps5 is not because of power, we want a ps5 really bad because of the sequels and games were excited to play. This more power and anti consumer rhetoric is getting old and desperate. Be better Microsoft !
If the games out now can and do run at 1080p/60 fps(that being the vast majority of players), and since if they sit 5-10 ft from the tv, a 8k tv isn't going to be doing its job unless those 8k tv owners are sitting faaaaaarther away than their 1080p counterparts. Which still makes 1080p viable. The past alone has taught us that buying at launch is not always the best option.
I'm a PS fan for the exclusives and will be buying that first no matter what the hardware specs. That said it is funny the shoe is on the other foot now (potentially) as I very well remember how the original XBox One got greatly criticized over a relatively small performance gap with the PS4...