Microsoft teases Surface Laptop 8 and Surface Pro 12 releases

[Redaktion]

Microsoft's long-awaited Intel Lunar Lake refresh of its Surface Laptop and Surface Pro lines is right around the corner. The two releases should appear much sooner than expected too with last year's consumer design changes in tow.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-teases-Surface-Laptop-8-and-Surface-Pro-12-releases.953092.0.html

[Saint_Ursula]

Surface for business.... great, that means a $500 surchage for absolutely no reason.

Meanwhile, peons have to use crapdragon models

[RobertJasiek]

Firstly, it means Windows 11 Pro instead of Windows on ARM! Secondly, recent Surfaces have been overpriced indeed but could be because OEMs offer no noteworthy competition.

Whether I buy a Surface Pro 12 "for business" as a private endconsumers depends on more than the overprice:
- No, or tolerable, PWM display flickering?
- Silent and dust-free without fan?
- Price of replacement batteries. Still in the €250 ~ 450 range and well hidden (such as after a device purchase), or now reasonable again and openly announced?
- Is the anti-reflection anti-reflective by finally being matte or a lie again?
- Is easy maintenance a lie again?
- What is the WLAN battery duration? Does Microsoft implement Lunar Lake properly with ca. 15h or fail with ca. 5h indoors?

The first decade of Microsoft's Surface disappointment I survived with an iPad, whose battery is now dying. I need a tablet so urgently and want regular Windows that I might pay some overprice but only if Microsoft meets these aspects reasonably instead of failing again, again, again. Otherwise, I might choose a cheap Android tablet to survive the next decade of Microsoft failing again, again, again.

In particular, nothing could convince me to buy a tablet with a fan or with €450 as the battery replacement price, which ought to be less than 1/10. A tablet with initially 5h battery life indoors would be unusable.

[Vrvly]

Foldable screen "should" be next gen, if it will be, that's another matter.
Optional portable keyboard and you got basically 2 screen sizes, bended with software keyboard or unfolded size.

[heffeque]

A Surface Pro with Strix Point would be an interesting machine to see.

[zintia]

Many of us think the same, I don't know the reason why Microsoft has been rejecting AMD chips in recent years, when it has been shown that AMD APUs are far superior.
The competition has overtaken the Surface with more profitable products such as the ROG Flow Z13 (2025) GZ302 with an AMD Ryzen Max+ 395 processor that consumes less than Intel and has better graphic performance.
In short, many users expect that there are 3 alternatives: Intel, AMD, Qualcomm and each one chooses what suits them best.

[astolfo]

Many of us think the same, I don't know the reason why Microsoft has been rejecting AMD chips in recent years, when it has been shown that AMD APUs are far superior.
The competition has overtaken the Surface with more profitable products such as the ROG Flow Z13 (2025) GZ302 with an AMD Ryzen Max+ 395 processor that consumes less than Intel and has better graphic performance.
In short, many users expect that there are 3 alternatives: Intel, AMD, Qualcomm and each one chooses what suits them best.

The reason is the same as has always been with AMD on laptops: no enough stock to meet demand. No company wants to sit around having motherboards waiting for their CPU to arrive. And I'm sure, the lack of Thunderbolt also plays a role in that decision. I would also like to see an AMD version, but it is what it is. At least Lunar Lake will be a great option for years to come.

[RobertJasiek]

What is the link to the coming livestream, please?

[RobertJasiek]

aitour.microsoft.com/en-US/new-york

Seit weniger als einer Stunde gibt es dort jetzt einen Link zu einer Live-Keynote, aber ich weiß weder die genaue Anfangsuhrzeit (Vielleicht 15:45 oder 16:00 CET?) noch, ob es darin auch um Surfaces geht.

[RobertJasiek]

Caschys Blog
stadt-bremerhaven.de/microsoft-surface-pro-for-business-neue-generation-mit-lc-und-oled-display-vorgestellt/

Surface Pro for Business
13" 2.880 x 1.920 3:2 120Hz
LCD or OLED
Core Ultra 5 236V or 238V, or Core Ultra 7 266V or 268V
16 or 32 GB LPDDR5X
up to 1 TB SSD
287 x 209 x 9,3 mm
872g
Bluetooth 5.4, Wifi 7
2 x USB-C with USB4 / Thunderbolt 4
60W charging via Surface-Connect-Port
Windows 11 Pro
available from 2025-02-18
USA $1499.99+


NBC tested Surface Laptop 7 13.8 WLAN battery life 14:12.

www.notebookcheck.com/Microsoft-Surface-Laptop-7-13-8-Copilot-im-Test-Dank-Snapdragon-X-Elite-endlich-ein-ernstzunehmender-MacBook-Air-Konkurrent.853937.0.html

The Microsoft keynote on 2025-01-30 claims 3x battery life for Surface Laptop when using Teams. Making a worst assumption of battery life not dropping in real world tests and reading Microsoft's webpage for Surface Pro 11 saying 14:00 when watching videos and 10:00 when surfing and comparing to NBC's tests

www.notebookcheck.com/Microsoft-Surface-Pro-IPS-Copilot-im-Test-Das-Basismodell-kommt-mit-IPS-Display-und-
Snapdragon-X-Plus.851167.0.html

with 11:02 WLAN battery life and

www.notebookcheck.com/Microsoft-Surface-Pro-OLED-Copilot-im-Test-High-End-Convertible-jetzt-mit-Snapdragon-X-Elite.849852.0.html

with 11:05 WLAN battery life, we might conclude that at least 10:00 for Surface Laptop but cannot make a safe prediction for the WLAN battery life of Surface Pro 12 with Lunar Lake.

I do not have any information on fan vs. silent or degree of reflectance yet.