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Apple MacBook Pro 14 2023 M3 Pro im Test - Verbesserte Akkulaufzeit und mehr Leistung

Started by Redaktion, December 06, 2023, 13:55:14

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Redaktion

Apple bietet das MacBook Pro 14 auch wieder mit einem abgespeckten M3-Pro-SoC an und im Vergleich zum M2-Pro-Vorgänger ist die UVP um 100 Euro gestiegen. Dafür gibt es mehr CPU-Leistung, ein helleres Display im SDR-Betrieb und deutlich längere Akkulaufzeiten.

https://www.notebookcheck.com/Apple-MacBook-Pro-14-2023-M3-Pro-im-Test-Verbesserte-Akkulaufzeit-und-mehr-Leistung.775528.0.html

akkuly

USB-A.Anschlüsse... das Fehlen solcher Anschlüsse kritisiert ihr bzw. listet ihr als Minuspunkt auf bei Windows-Notebooks. Schon seltsam. Zweierlei Maßstäbe und so. So wurde dies z.B. beim "Apple MacBook Air M2 Entry" nicht als Minuspunkt erwähnt.


Petros Kraitsis

Im Fazit steht, dass der Bildschirm toll sei.
In den Contra Punkten werden aber ein konstantes PWM Flimmern und langsame Reaktionszeiten genannt.
Könntet Ihr demnächt genau erläutern, was die beurteilung "toll" bedeutet?
Weil so wirkt das ziemlich widersprüchlich.
Vielen Dank.

Klaus Hinum

PWM betrifft - gerade bei so hohen Frequenzen - nur sehr wenige User und die langsamen Reaktionszeiten sind auch eher für Gamer relevant, ebenso bei Mac User eher eine Minderheit.
Wurde Dir von einem in unserem Forum oder durch Notebookcheck geholfen? Dann verfass doch einen User Testbericht über dein Notebook und gib damit etwas an die Community zurück!

NikoB

What is most striking is that despite Apple's declarations of 300-400GB/s memory controllers for versions with the M3 Max, there is practically no real difference, according to the test from the reviews of these models Pro vs Max. Where does the more than 2-fold advantage of Max models in memory bandwidth go?

It turns out that if the tests on this site do not lie, Apple are monstrous liars, and their Max version has wildly disgraced itself against the backdrop of technical declarations.

For example, in Photoshop, the performance of most filters depends almost linearly on memory bandwidth.

And of course, these 110-125GB/s are still faster than the x86 camp. But we must remember that some of the calculations there can be done at the VRAM level (up to 16GB in size), which is up to 7 times faster than the RAM of Apple laptops...

For this deception alone, I would immediately reduce the final score by 5 points for all models that claim a controller with 200-400GB/s memory bandwidth...

RobertJasiek

Quote from: Klaus Hinum on December 07, 2023, 12:05:20PWM betrifft - gerade bei so hohen Frequenzen - nur sehr wenige User

Bei Aspest dachte man mal: harmlos. Bei PWM fehlen Langzeitstudien!

NikoB

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 07, 2023, 16:00:03
Quote from: Klaus Hinum on December 07, 2023, 12:05:20PWM betrifft - gerade bei so hohen Frequenzen - nur sehr wenige User
Bei Aspest dachte man mal: harmlos. Bei PWM fehlen Langzeitstudien!
Robert, I have cited several times before a link to scientific studies on long-term effects on various animals. It has been proven that it has a very strong effect. It depends on the reaction speed of the nervous system, and it differs in different animals - in birds it is stronger, for obvious reasons - they react much faster to everything.

People are not particularly different; it depends on the speed of reaction of the nervous system, which is determined by genes. Everywhere everything is individual, especially in the short term. In the long term, it is obvious that any flicker that can affect the autonomic nervous system is dangerous.

The degree of reaction of the authorities (and in general of the population, their mentality, which they represent) is generally cynical - unless there is a strong increase in the load on the healthcare system, they essentially don't care whether part of the population has local problems.

In the case of smoking, it was banal and simple - with the increase in average life expectancy, it began to have an extremely negative impact on the budget of the health care system in developed countries, due to the sharp increase in resources allocated to health care in order to deal with people who have not yet died, but are already sick, because for the consequences of long-term smoking. Until a certain point, no particular attention was paid to smoking, because public health was in its infancy and the average life expectancy (especially for men) was just at the level when critical problems began due to smoking - i.e. . men simply died before they had to be treated for the consequences of smoking, for other reasons. And women still smoked very little back then. As soon as mass smoking intersected with the interests of the state and its budget, tobacco companies immediately found themselves in disgrace. But they still exist and produce obviously harmful products. By the way, men in most countries of the world still live significantly less than women, despite the fact that women seem to give birth...

Against this sad background, why shouldn't unscrupulous businessmen make massively flickering and glare AMOLED (other technological problems can be considered insignificant), while there is still no significant impact on health problems from the point of view of states? No one cares until the conventional hour X comes, just like with smoking once upon a time. Or maybe it won't happen on a mass scale, and then people with a sensitive nervous system will be left without a choice at all, which is now happening en masse in the same smartphones - it has become simply impossible to buy a mid-level or higher-level model with an IPS screen.

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