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Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max battery tests indicate worse endurance than the iPhone 14 Pro Max

Started by Redaktion, September 20, 2023, 10:28:13

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Redaktion

The iPhone 15 series has now been subjected to battery endurance tests, with some less-than-ideal results indicating poor efficiency numbers on the chipset end. The iPhone 15 Pro Max and iPhone 15 Pro somehow manage to deliver worse battery performance than their predecessors, despite having slightly bigger batteries.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-iPhone-15-Pro-Max-battery-tests-indicate-worse-endurance-than-the-iPhone-14-Pro-Max.752803.0.html

NikoB

Well, where did the vaunted "energy efficiency" of "3nm" go, compared to "4nm"? It looks like Apple wants to pull as many "parrots" as possible for the public, i.e. points from the new SoC, she simply sacrificed energy efficiency for the sake of slightly higher performance, but for the first time, in the 15th series, she was unable to get top-end SoCs from the Android camp. The beginning of Apple's final decline as a leader? And in general, the decline of technical processes, where a decrease in consumption with a simultaneous increase in productivity is increasingly taking on the appearance of a flat curve? And what will gadget manufacturers do next when the performance of silicon chips is completely within the physical limits of the real world? Will they, as before, at the time of decline, sell "rhinestones" instead of technologies? Especially if the physical impasse lasts much longer than everyone expects?

Mr Majestyk

Quote from: NikoB on September 20, 2023, 13:35:24Well, where did the vaunted "energy efficiency" of "3nm" go, compared to "4nm"? It looks like Apple wants to pull as many "parrots" as possible for the public, i.e. points from the new SoC, she simply sacrificed energy efficiency for the sake of slightly higher performance, but for the first time, in the 15th series, she was unable to get top-end SoCs from the Android camp. The beginning of Apple's final decline as a leader? And in general, the decline of technical processes, where a decrease in consumption with a simultaneous increase in productivity is increasingly taking on the appearance of a flat curve? And what will gadget manufacturers do next when the performance of silicon chips is completely within the physical limits of the real world? Will they, as before, at the time of decline, sell "rhinestones" instead of technologies? Especially if the physical impasse lasts much longer than everyone expects?

Apple of course being Apple wanted to boast about being on the bleeding edge tech. Alas for their buyers TSMC's 3nm node is incredibly poor update of 4nm. There has been almost no scaling and performance improvements with the first gen N3B node and it costs a lot more. Apple could have easily gone with the highly refined N4P node and saved a lot of money. Most companies are waiting for TSMC's update N3E at least. Heck Samsung's 4nm is probably a lot better option than TSMC's N3B.

Better wait for the iPhone 16 I guess.

NikoB

On the one hand, it is very good that ordinary hamsters continue to pay for attempts at technical progress from their own pockets (in the PC sector, for example, everything has become very bad precisely because the mass buyer switched to smartphones, since most of them are not the creators of anything something new, but banal consumers), on the other hand, the general trend that has moved away from the principle of maximum energy efficiency, and not stupid productivity, to the detriment of the autonomy of the final solutions and/or consumption is saddening.

Laptops with a power consumption of 200W+ are already insane. Like PCs, which consume only 150-200W at the processor level.

In smartphones, approximately the same trend is beginning to be observed (albeit strictly limited by progress in batteries) with a deterioration in energy efficiency in new technical processes.

And new trends (like direct satellite communication) require the opposite - an increase in consumption by smartphones and with a clear increase in the SAR level.

Bob Blue

IOS 17 isn't fully optimized yet nor is A17 bionic. Give it time and things will improve. I did watch a test and it beat the S23 by several minutes.

NikoB

Quote from: Bob Blue on September 23, 2023, 21:29:16IOS 17 isn't fully optimized yet nor is A17 bionic. Give it time and things will improve. I did watch a test and it beat the S23 by several minutes.
This no longer has any meaning - the general trend is further only degradation in terms of progress. Because greater performance will become increasingly difficult to achieve without increased consumption in smartphones (as well as in PCs/laptops/video cards). The growth curve becomes almost flat. As predicted.

Accordingly, they will continue to sell you "rhinestones", and not real progress in hardware. Stagnation begins in smartphones as well. They will no longer be able to increase productivity while keeping consumption within the required limits at the same pace as before. Everything is over.

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