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New report says that AMD and Nvidia graphics cards could get hefty price cuts by the end of August

Started by Redaktion, August 16, 2022, 15:30:41

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Redaktion

Sources inside the graphics card supply chain have suggested that AMD and Nvidia plan to further cut the price of their current-generation offerings. Both companies want to get rid of excess inventory before their next-generation offerings launch later this year.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-report-says-that-AMD-and-Nvidia-graphics-cards-could-get-hefty-price-cuts-by-the-end-of-August.640881.0.html

RobertJasiek

"further discount their offerings"

This is misleading. Previously overpriced cards got some discounts to make then less overpriced. The core cards 3060TI, 3070, 3080 10GB are at 120~140% MSRP (in Germany) so they have never been discounted and therefore cannot be "further" discounted. They can only enter discount level for the first time.

"attractive discounts"

That would be at most 70% of the initial MSRPs. Some even say: 40%. By the end of August? I won't even believe it when I see it, order and prepay. I will only believe it after unboxing and testing.

NikoB

Discrete video cards have ceased to be just an entertainment and a working tool for a narrow layer of professionals. They became a banal computer for crypts. Their value is now determined by the payback of the solution in the cryptosphere and nothing more. There is demand from the miners, the price will never fall below this demand until the crypt and miners or the value of video chips in the production of crypto-currencies will disappear. Everything is quite banal, so waiting for the weather by the sea is useless. Or you buy a card and pay for it with mining or pay how much they ask for retail for entertainment on it without any payback (well, except for your personal pleasure). You are not given any other choice, except not to buy and sit without a card.

This is pure capitalism - the price is determined by demand. If, of course, discard the fact that on the planet there are only 2 companies producing video chips and it is easy to assume an oligopolic conspiracy, as in other market niches (which was repeatedly proved by antimonopoly states departments of different countries, though fines are always less than oligopolies get of profit for years with criminal practice).

For example, it is absolutely clear that it is also not a clean thing with companies producing data drives (HDD) - there are only 3 of them and HDD sales are falling a year after year, not because people do not need personal storage facilities (on the contrary, the risks of storage in the clouds only proved that this solution is nonsense, in fact), but because prices for 1TB of capacities practically stopped falling into The previous pace, as it was until August 2011. Since then, stagnation, and the average price of HDD, on the contrary, began to grow in 2015, as the Forbes analysis showed.

And this is another implicit reason, not understandable to many people ...

NikoB

We must also not forget that NVIDIA/AMD is very profitable from change the scale of prices from 2017 on crypto-boom (although the cost of production at the plant, taking into account all the costs of R&D, remains in the previous proportions) and they are clearly not interested (which is generally immoral, but normally from the point of view The base of capitalism is a pursuit of profit) that prices return to the previous scale even with adjustment to current inflation.

The fact that capitalism inevitably rolls to imperialism - i.e. The dominance of oligopolies and monopolies in the market after squeezing out all competitors and establishing insurmountable barriers to enter the market niche of new players, a long -obvious fact, to any educated person. So do not be surprised at what is happening when civil society and civilian institutions of control of power and business are silent like a fish, deciding that it is not their citizens, a matter, but someone else. Someone else should bother, kick legislators and antimonopoly departments of all countries so that they fight the monopolization of market niches and develop real competition. The system of patent law itself for today is a brake of global progress, especially taking into account the possibilities of transnational corporations for patents wars vs poor startups.

Patents of the corporation should be limited by a validity period of not more than 10 years (and rather 7 years sufficient for the payback of research, if everything is done rationally and optimally), with a bias in favor of startups, as the least protected new companies. This must be done for the sake of social responsibility of large transnational companies to humanity as a whole and the possibility of progress.

Back in 2017, "The Economist" published a detailed article on the suppression of competition in the United States, one famous scientific researchers. He proved with numbers on his hands how the destruction of competition in many market niches (thanks to the connivance of civil society and, as a result of the authorities chosen in the elections) led to a sharp increase in prices in the United States to many goods, even taking into account with inflation for this decades...

NikoB

Do not forget that large companies are easier to control from the point of view of authoritarian (or worse - totalitarian) and populist authorities. And such power now becomes the norm in most countries of the world.. Since 2020, this became obvious to much larger number of inhabitants than before.

To manipulate the opinion of society and its power in other countries is much easier when the number of big companies lends itself to more easy control with a minimum number of players in each key global market niche.

Those, any authorities is essentially interested in monopolizing the markets if it is not pulled on in time, a progressive civil society (primarily activists are able to force legislators to change the rules of the game in favor of more competition).

Any country (society and its authorities) are interested in its superiority over others. History shows that those society where civil society and institutions of authorities control is more developed, at long historical intervals, but tactically authorities (specific persons and layers of society, most often parasitizing on productive layers, which are less and less on the planet) gravitates towards populist decisions and authoritarian decisions, and not to a free market.

This subtle line between rational behavior in favor of the development of the entire civilization and the interests of some group of persons, most often is easily moved in favor of the skins of this group of persons.

And here only the level of education of a particular individual, its level of mentality, allow you to distinguish this thin line. This, alas, is given not to many residents of the planet...

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