AMD Ryzen 7000 placeholder prices leave expectant fans anxious about possible Zen 3 to Zen 4 price hikes

[Redaktion]

AMD Ryzen 7000 placeholder prices have been spotted online, with the figures making some fans a little nervous about their potential accuracy. A previous leak gave the impression that CPUs in the Zen 4 Raphael series, such as the Ryzen 5 7600X and Ryzen 9 7950X, would be priced at a similar level to Zen 3 parts.

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[NikoB]

The Western governments themselves created artificial hyperinflation, having launched the "printing machines" from 2009 at full capacity, and especially from the fall of 2019, to burn their debts from creditors (local and globally), which they are no longer able to pay without their depreciation. So do not be surprised at price growth. In fact, the nominal increase in prices reflects frantic inflation. And those who do not receive an income (or salary) increase than inflation become a loser within the framework of such a system. With high inflationary pressure, there is always a forced (at the business level) purification of society from parasitic layers that are not productive, i.e. competitive (for now time is globally).
"They did not fit into market conditions" (c). These are the brutal realities of capitalism that do not accept poor (it in common is fail of mentality), orphans and cripples, but only strong, healthy and wealth...

[NikoB]

In fact, everyone is now paying for socialism in which the "developed world" is mired and which has forgotten about real capitalism. But because Capitalism is a reflection of the natural customs of people, it inevitably returns brutally crushing the lost souls and society...

Life in the debt of future generations (loans) is a mathematically insoluble path, always leading to the Ponzi scheme and the crash of everything..at the beginning of consumer comfort, then life hopes and, as a result, human lives ...

[Anonymousgg]

If the prices are too high, people will not buy. And the prices will drop.

After all, it will be competing with Raptor Lake and discount Vermeer/Cezanne/AM4 + Alder Lake. With all of those being able to use DDR4. I wouldn't be too anxious about it.

[NikoB]

No, they(prices) will not down. Because stagflation is approaching the world. You will receive (in real money) less, and prices (in real money) will be more and more. Actually, the most, as usual, pensioners will suffer, at which the authorities do not care. Just the other day they wrote that the planned indexation of pensions in the same England in 2022 is several times lower than real inflation. This is called stagflation. In stagflation, only the most productive and active persons survive, which can get money more then nominal prices increasing.

People in developing countries have long been familiar with stagflation and hyperinflation. And the elderly, people with disabilities and the poorest, always have the costs of the most necessary maximum.

It is just a high tech industry, thanks to the complex chains of the division of labor (and the fact that this market is not considered socially significant goods, i.e. it is not controlled by the authorities) usually reacts most quickly and powerfully. Sometimes progress manages to replay inflation, but now definitely the wrong time. Progress in IT is weak, and inflation is powerful all over the planet.
People are accustomed to low inflation for decades and now, seeing powerful shifts on a nominal scale of prices, are in mass shock.

"We must run as fast as we can, just to stay in place. And if you wish to go anywhere you must run twice as fast as that." (c)

[Anonymousgg]

We have seen a number of Zen 3 CPUs, which had relatively large margins for AMD, decline 33-50% in price once Intel started competing. So yes, prices will go down beyond whatever "hyperinflation" you think will keep them up. Unless China invades Taiwan.

[NikoB]

Progress has not yet stopped, then everything ahead of those systemic problems of mankind that inexorably cover it with a copper bowl..

Everything is ahead. Globalization is practically destroyed, but the inertia of such a colossus system leaves the illusion that it is still good, but this is not so. And in itself, progress was practically stopped (If you take into account its speed in comparison with what was literally 12-13 years ago and more) at the level of fundamental restrictions and not the ability to make new breakthrough technologies, this is clearly visible in all areas.

I have already written more than once that at the rate of extension of performance, that we have been observing in recent years, there will be no breakthroughs as in quality. Because new levels of quality and capabilities require personal computing power by 5-6 orders more than the layman in the pocket and on the table now has.

Roughly speaking until 2011-2012, i.e. in about ~25 years, performance has grown almost 100000 times. And how much did it grow from 2012 to 2022? 4-5 times (max 5-6) just if you look at the performance of ordinary CPU..

At the same time, the consumption of processors only grows, and does not fall. This is a technological dead end without a doubt and people like me well understand it.

[NikoB]

My old i5 processor bought for $200 in 2009 has a level in AIDA64 CpuQueen ~32000. The latest i5 even have in modified tests (but my i5 have and now 32000) from AIDA64 CpuQueen in the region of 120-140K. This is just x4-x5 times in 13 years! This is a natural stagnation in processor-building. If you look from the point of view of the philistine tasks such as office tasks - it may seem normal, but as it previously wrote - for the new level of software at a qualitatively different level of interaction with a human and its senses, it should have increased its previous pace. So far, no radical breakthroughs are visible on the horizon for 15-20 years. This is very sad. Especially when you yourself are no longer young and you are unlikely to see these breakthroughs...