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Asus ROG Flow X16 laptop in review: 1,100 nits mini-LED display in gaming convertible with Ryzen 9 6900HS

Started by Redaktion, August 06, 2022, 14:24:24

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Redaktion

Mini-LED makes its debut in the form of 1,100 nits that ensure a true HDR gaming experience: Asus' ROG Flow X16 is a compact 16-inch and 2-in-1 convertible that keeps 125 watts of RTX 3070 Ti permanently cool, outperforming other multimedia notebooks while remaining quieter than gaming laptops.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Flow-X16-laptop-in-review-1-100-nits-mini-LED-display-in-gaming-convertible-with-Ryzen-9-6900HS.639416.0.html

Nick Evans

Dear NotebookCheck,

This is not an 1100-nits display. As proven by your own measurements, this is a 500-nits display that is certified for DisplayHDR 1000. Please don't just mindlessly regurgitate misleading marketing "specifications".

A reader, for now.

Pepas

It depends, if you measure in HDR or SDR mode. If you look on TVs usual measurements, they are done in SDR and HDR apart.
BTW HDR 1000 certification has also this condition: Peak luminance of 1000 cd/m2

So its not possible to have 500 nit display and have HDR 1000 certification.

Read display hdr certification requirements for HDR 1000!

Marvin Gollor

@Pepas: You're right. We measure 500 Nits in SDR-Mode and 1113 Nits Peak Brightness in HDR-Mode (> 900 Nits sustained). You can activate HDR in the Windows settings and then even use the computer for regular working tasks with > 900 Nits. So even web browsing for example gets crazy bright even though it is no HDR-content per se. It's a Difference between day and night though!
ThinkPad P1 Gen 3 (8-Core + 4K matte)

Couldntresist

Quote from: Pepas on August 07, 2022, 20:42:04It depends, if you measure in HDR or SDR mode. If you look on TVs usual measurements, they are done in SDR and HDR apart.
BTW HDR 1000 certification has also this condition: Peak luminance of 1000 cd/m2

So its not possible to have 500 nit display and have HDR 1000 certification.

Read display hdr certification requirements for HDR 1000!
So you think the display on this laptop is 1 m²?
Not saying that'd be something interesting but also quite silly. So I agree, please read the specs

NikoB

Ordinary HDR (static version of metadata), those. Static HDR has a fake in essence on screens outside the pure OLED with a native contrast of more than 100,000:1. Because Static HDR for OLED was just made. And there the peak brightness of 1000 threads is simply not needed at home (by the way, for the same reason, we will never physically complete the Static HDR projectors)

If we talk about the support of Dynamic HDR (as an industrial standard starting with HDMI 2.1), then it is practically not used in the film industry and on YouTube. DV reigns in the cinema, and on YouTube (and other streaming services) is simply HDR fakes.

Some manufacturers declare DV support at the panel level (for example, in Legion 5 Pro), but the implementation of all this is again more like a fake than the real full support of the Dolby Vision. On YouTube and the like, almost certainly.

While Dynamic HDR is not the norm on all devices, there will be no sense. And this requires the widespread of laptop panels, monitors, TV and projectors with a full-fledged HDMI 2.1 (and not just a nameplate behind which is hiding old 2.0b, brazenly named 2.1, as most often in practice).

Dynamic HDR or DV allow you to squeeze out the maximum from any device, including old ones, dynamically adjusting to their real dynamic range, real native contrast and peak brightness. XVA/IPS matrices and projectors (including laser light source) simply cannot be fully supported by Static HDR (the most common in the world), physically not capable of this, which is supported by HDMI 2.0B/DP 1.4B.

miniLED backlight is essentially a crutch between IPS and OLED. Neither one nor si. Native contrast is still insufficient, as the required level of black at the pixel level, especially on the boundaries of the backlight zones.

But there is still no working alternative to the flickering OLED in the market - microLED. If it will also flicker at a low frequency as OLED, then does someone need it in comparison with OLED?

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