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AMD Rembrandt allegedly in production: Ryzen 6000 with Zen 3+ cores and RDNA 2 iGPU could do a "Tiger Lake" on Cezanne

Started by Redaktion, September 06, 2021, 11:20:50

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Redaktion

Details about AMD's upcoming Rembrandt series of processors, also known as Ryzen 6000, have supposedly been leaked on Twitter. The main news concerns the mass production status of the Ryzen 6000 APUs; however, another source indicates that the Zen 3+ RDNA 2 chips will offer Tiger Lake levels of iGPU performance improvements.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Rembrandt-allegedly-in-production-Ryzen-6000-with-Zen-3-cores-and-RDNA-2-iGPU-could-do-a-Tiger-Lake-on-Cezanne.558916.0.html


Lol

Quote from: Kelen on September 06, 2021, 11:25:01
RDNA 2 chips will offer Tiger Lake levels of iGPU

AMD aim higher please.

You misunderstood, Tiger Lake was a massive improvement in iGPU for intel, rdna will be the same massive improvement to existing vega apus which are already roughly on par with TGL

mike hkggjagef


Hardware Geek

It makes sense that they would wait for ddr5 before introducing rdna2 in their apu. They need the bandwidth of ddr5 to keep the graphics cores fed.

sorin

Steam Deck with 8CU has 88GB/s brandwith with 5500mhz lpddr5. It can run steam games 720p at least 30fps on low. So this is gonna be good.

Laurence Parry

It should perform well, with the right memory setup. I was concerned, however, to read that it may feature a cut-down video core which does not support AV1 decode (as well as a few older ones like those for DVD, MPEG2 and WMV).

While it's true that software decode via generic vector processing has improved a lot, this is still likely to use more power than a direct hardware implementation. And AV1 is set to become part of a new image standard, too, AVIF.

Anonymousgg

Quote from: Laurence Parry on September 06, 2021, 17:30:52
It should perform well, with the right memory setup. I was concerned, however, to read that it may feature a cut-down video core which does not support AV1 decode (as well as a few older ones like those for DVD, MPEG2 and WMV).

Where did you read that? I read that it will have VCN 3.1, probably either identical to VCN 3.0 that has AV1 decode, or slightly better.

vertigo

That comment could also be read as meaning Rembrandt's margin over TGL will be larger than TGL's margin over Renoir, i.e.:

"remember when i said TGL iGP was gonna be the best (vs Renoir, the previous best), well this will too, but the margin is a lot bigger (vs TGL, the current best, by a small margin)"

SestoPT

Quote from: mike hkggjagef on September 06, 2021, 13:21:26
AMD MAKE IT 22-24 + RDNA2 CUS WTF AMD SCREW U AND p*** ON AM$ USERS f*** YOU

22-24 CUs im 1000% shure it Will NEVER happen... You do understand rx 6600 (non xt) have 28 CUs dont you???
It Will be 12 CUs max... This os supposed to be an APU not a discrete graphics card killer...
Following your toughts AMD would never release a GPU lower than RX6600....


James Kerr

I really don't know or care what's going on here all I know is MD Grapher's cards suck  the CPU's are awesome but I want to  cpu to go over 5000 plus mhz. STAT. That's latin for right  now.  Cause I'm cultured ok  meow

Xajel

Quote from: Laurence Parry on September 06, 2021, 17:30:52
It should perform well, with the right memory setup. I was concerned, however, to read that it may feature a cut-down video core which does not support AV1 decode (as well as a few older ones like those for DVD, MPEG2 and WMV).

While it's true that software decode via generic vector processing has improved a lot, this is still likely to use more power than a direct hardware implementation. And AV1 is set to become part of a new image standard, too, AVIF.

Are you sure?
I've heard it just uses an updated VCN, 3.1 IIRC. I'm okay with removing the old codecs, MPEG2, DVD, WMV.. These are very fast on software now with modern CPU's that including them in ASIC is waste of silicon better used for more codecs or even faster processing. So removing AV1 is a bad decision.

Not to mention the current move regarding video processing, Apple started it with their M1, and it seems intel will follow the step with accelerating video processing (not just coding/decoding/transcoding, basic color processing and AI based scaling). I hope AMD jump into this also to promote better video processing not just for viewing but also for content creation.

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