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These LG smartphones will receive Android 12 and Android 13; V60 ThinQ is the only notable absentee

Started by Redaktion, April 12, 2021, 18:39:18

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Redaktion

LG has confirmed which of its smartphones will see Android 12 and Android 13, while reiterating its Android 11 update plans. At least the LG Velvet and LG Wing will receive Android 13, while the V50, G8 and three Q-series smartphones will get Android 12. Inexplicably, the V60 ThinQ is missing from LG's update plans, despite being the company's last true flagship smartphone.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/These-LG-smartphones-will-receive-Android-12-and-Android-13-V60-ThinQ-is-the-only-notable-absentee.531840.0.html


JC

How disappointing. My wife and I both have V60s, mine with the dual screen. I'd speculate that LG doesn't want to expend the extra time and money on optimizing Android updates for a niche variant that uses a dual screen. Bah!

Awesomeblackdude

I understood that these companies like Samsung Galaxy phones and Apple iPhones were both receiving some kind of C-19 stimulus relief. I fail to see why LG was not receiving any government benefits.

What do all those new phones have in common?,.. Government access. That's a feature you don't hear none of these companies talk about.

It's now very suspicious that you don't hear any more news about iPhone fighting against the US government having access to these beloved iPhone users.

These mobile devices aren't any different than a Win-box operating system (NSA back door).  :o

You constantly kept coming across reading of LG should of had did this or add that to their device features. I, myself is going to say no to all of these above.

May I say (instead) just swap out the snapdragon 865 to a 5nm 888 chipset and fix the damn dual screen close lid (glass keep cracking) and call it the V70 w/a 7" screen display.

One last thing to make it a sweet deal, LG seeing there are small competitive companies who's allowed up to 400GB business data around the $100.00 mark for each month. 

LG could had offered by adding this with their v60 and v70 phones at half price  half data of 200GB.

Sometimes it's not about a new hardware feature, but more about a service feature as everybody know unlimited isn't really unlimited. Especially in the 5G arena... 😬



Kam1936

Hi This is Ian from LG Electronics. We were on the phone talking about your issue regarding your LG V60 TMOBILE however the line got disconnected. We would like to inform you that your phone will received the android 12 and 13 update. I tried calling you back but reached only the Voicemail. If you still need further assistance, please feel free to reach us on the number below: Phone Support Consumer Support 7am - Midnight CST (800) 243-0000 Reply STOP to Opt Out

Verified from Two different agents. T-Mobile Version is definitely getting Android 13.  8)

Otis McCoy


Scott Atkins

I have the v60 threw AT&T will I get the update as t mobile update ? Very disappointed if not  I have to ditch phone as will be outdated n useless

Meghan

So if you have a V60 Thinq you're screwed pretty much?! We don't get updates for our phones smh... Wtf

Kam1936

Quote from: Meghan on April 13, 2021, 18:10:27
So if you have a V60 Thinq you're screwed pretty much?! We don't get updates for our phones smh... Wtf
This:
Hi This is Ian from LG Electronics. We were on the phone talking about your issue regarding your LG V60 TMOBILE however the line got disconnected. We would like to inform you that your phone will received the android 12 and 13 update. I tried calling you back but reached only the Voicemail. If you still need further assistance, please feel free to reach us on the number below: Phone Support Consumer Support 7am - Midnight CST (800) 243-0000 Reply STOP to Opt Out

I would say that all V60s in North America regardless of carrier will get Android 12 and 13. But only phones with the 888 Qualcomm will get Android 14. V60 has 865 Qualcomm. That's why we're getting cut off at Android 13.
Notice the list didn't even mention LG V69 getting Android 11. I've got Android 11 back in February with T-Mobile. I tried to post the link to Qualcomm article but they wouldn't allow it.

Kam1936

Quote from: Scott Atkins on April 13, 2021, 18:05:21
I have the v60 threw AT&T will I get the update as t mobile update ? Very disappointed if not  I have to ditch phone as will be outdated n useless
Read carefully. The list they have for Android 11 doesn't include the LG V60 ThinQ. I've had the update since February 2021. So, that confirms this article is inaccurate already. And this:

Hi This is Ian from LG Electronics. We were on the phone talking about your issue regarding your LG V60 TMOBILE however the line got disconnected. We would like to inform you that your phone will received the android 12 and 13 update. I tried calling you back but reached only the Voicemail. If you still need further assistance, please feel free to reach us on the number below: Phone Support Consumer Support 7am - Midnight CST (800) 243-0000 Reply STOP to Opt Out

Also, there is an article about Googles agreement with Qualcomm 4 OS updates including the one your phone came with. V60 came with Android 10. 11, 12 and 13 makes four promised updates with our older 865 processor.

Kam1936

And this:
Ars Technica

Qualcomm promises three years of Android updates for its entire SoC lineup
Ron Amadeo  12/16/2020 6:40 pm  Categories:Tech
View non-AMP version at arstechnica.com

The Snapdragon 888, sitting on the world's biggest ARM motherboard.
Qualcomm
Google and Qualcomm are teaming up to enable a longer support window for flagship Android smartphones. Qualcomm, with Google's help, will now support its chipsets for three years of major OS updates and four years of security updates, enabling a better-than-Pixel level for all future Android phones, provided your OEM is willing to cooperate. This policy is starting with the flagship Snapdragon 888, but even lower-end chips will be supported. Qualcomm PR tells us "the plan is to roll this out to all Snapdragon chipsets, including lower-tier ones, but starting with the new Snapdragon 888 platform."

Part of the challenge of Android updates is the continuous chain of software custody that has to be maintained across several companies, from the Android repository to your phone. Google and Qualcomm now say they are willing to pass the update baton to OEMs for three major updates and four years of security updates, but OEMs will actually need to update their Android skins and ship working builds to each of their devices. If they don't, we at least know who to blame now.


Qualcomm's and Google's blog posts both contain the same phrasing, that they will "support 4 Android OS versions and 4 years of security updates." Read that quote closely and you'll spot two different units of measurement happening there, which some people have misinterpreted. While there are four years of security updates, the two companies are counting the initial release of Android in their quote of "4 Android OS versions," so it's three years of major Android updates, not four years. We double-checked with Qualcomm and got back "Qualcomm will support the launch version + 3 OS upgrades, for a total of 4 major Android OS versions. Snapdragon 888 will support Android 11, 12, 13, and 14."

This is the same update plan Pixels have gotten and what Samsung has promised, but with one more year of security updates. Keep in mind, Qualcomm is also bringing this level of support to low-end devices, so while this is only a baby step for flagship phones, lower-end phones could see greatly increased support windows.

Treble trouble
Google's blog post goes into detail about how it has made updating easier for SoC manufacturers like Qualcomm. Android's Project Treble re-architecture split the OS in half, separating the OS from the hardware with a modular interface. This makes it easy to run the same build of Android across multiple pieces of hardware (it's called a Generic System Image, or GSI). While that makes things easier if you're an OEM building an Android skin, Google was apparently heaping update requirements on SoC vendors.

SoC vendors are partly responsible for the "vendor" implementation in Project Treble—the bottom half of OS split that contains the hardware support. While things above the Project Treble split (the software) were guaranteed backward compatibility, the hardware support was not. For each SoC, Qualcomm would need to maintain a vendor implementation for each software history permutation. That means one for phones that launched with Android 10, another for Android 11, and a third for devices that launched with Android 10 and were upgraded to Android 11.

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This system did not scale well. Today, Google is vaguely announcing changes to Project Treble that will let Qualcomm support new and upgrading devices with a single vendor implementation. It has also (again, vaguely) cooked up some kind of scheme to let Qualcomm use the same vendor implementation across multiple SoCs, which will cut down on its update work even more.

Faster updates are slowly happening

Google is also taking this time to update us on the state of the Android update situation. Android 11 is ever so slightly seeing the fastest adoption rate ever and is outpacing the previous release (previously the fastest ever), at least in terms of raw users (I doubt the percentage would be much different since I doubt the total number of active Android users has changed in a year.) Thanks to Project Treble, the Android 10 chart turned into a wicked hockey stick about 100 days after launch, and we're not at that stage yet with Android 11.

Of course, this still doesn't bring Android in line with what Apple has been doing, which is five years of major OS updates and seven years of security updates for iPhones. Apple is the SoC vendor, the OS developer, and the device manufacturer though, so it has fewer logistics to work out, and it doesn't have to deal with preserving profit margins in each step of the process.

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Every Android update announcement feels like one small step toward making the situation better, and nothing will be a silver bullet aside from blowing up the whole system. Just about every sentence in this article could end with the caveat of "if your OEM wants to cooperate," and for many, that last link in the update chain will be the critical one. If your OEM doesn't want to play ball, well, you know what to do, right? Vote with your wallet!

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Brandon gardnet

That would be heartbreaking if the BEST and MOST POWERFUL phone they put out would get neglected AMD for some mid-range and budget lines....as a v60 owner this is very upsetting. Also said that we won't get a VIP or anything Luke this dual screen form factor ever again


YUKI93

Hmmm... maybe because the V60 is more of a region-specific smartphone? Anyway, I really would hope to see the Android 12 update for the V50. Samsung S10 series also receiving three OS update, so it's sensible for the V50 to have Android 12 as well.

Saffyre100

The v60 should be getting Android 12 and 13 as well. This is May 21, 2021 and my phone received the Android 11 update.

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