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Bloomberg analyst claims that the upcoming Nintendo Switch Pro could support 4K gaming: NVIDIA’s 1.4 TFLOP Tegra Xavier SoC might just get the job done

Started by Redaktion, August 25, 2020, 14:29:06

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Redaktion

Shortly after rumors emerged about an updated Nintendo Switch variant arriving next year to take on the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, a Bloomberg analyst, who earlier outed valid info on Nintendo products, claimed that the alleged "Switch Pro" will support 4K gaming.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Bloomberg-analyst-claims-that-the-upcoming-Nintendo-Switch-Pro-could-support-4K-gaming-NVIDIA-s-1-4-TFLOP-Tegra-Xavier-SoC-might-just-get-the-job-done.489554.0.html

opelit

Do some analyst before spreading false info.

For first Xavier uses Carmel custom cores.
Its enough to say it will not work. As it doesn't run ARM code.

Second 512 GPU core must clock very high to get 1.4Tflop, we all know that Nintendo underclocked TegraX1 to reach effect and do not burn our fingers. -- its 30W for the Xavier version.

... and latest, 10W version of Xavier uses less 384cores at up to 800Mhz to reach barely 614Gflop.

jeremy

Those Carmel custom cores are still ARMv8 ISA compliant, so they'll run arm code.

Nvidia themselves have a "Jetson Nano Next" on their roadmap for 2021, which seems to be the most likely candidate for a Switch upgrade/successor. What I don't know is the power cost of something like DLSS, but if it's lower power than increasing traditional rendering capabilities, then I would also expect to see it.

Quote from: opelit on August 25, 2020, 16:39:43
Do some analyst before spreading false info.

For first Xavier uses Carmel custom cores.
Its enough to say it will not work. As it doesn't run ARM code.

Second 512 GPU core must clock very high to get 1.4Tflop, we all know that Nintendo underclocked TegraX1 to reach effect and do not burn our fingers. -- its 30W for the Xavier version.

... and latest, 10W version of Xavier uses less 384cores at up to 800Mhz to reach barely 614Gflop.

RSS

Its highly unlikely, if someone followed nintendo know their goal is not to be the best graphics in the market, 4k gaming wouldnt be logical on the portable device, battery life would be horrible and nintendo wouldnt be able to make 4k games. Right now we are at 480p - 720p, so a jump to 1080p would be more believable

Dakhil

The problem is that the Tegra Xavier die is significantly larger than the Tegra X1 die and the Tegra X2 die. If Nintendo wants to keep the form factor of the "Nintendo Switch Pro" the same as the Nintendo Switch's form factor, I can't see how Nintendo can fit the Tegra Xavier die into the PCB board, even if it's fabricated at 8 nm or 7 nm. If the "Nintendo Switch Pro" renders anything in 4K, I imagine it's the OS UI, non-video game apps, and games that are very graphically simplistic.

Nameless

The regular Xavier isn't happening. Carmel cores are compatible with A57s, but they still take some work. Dunno if it's worth it for Nintendo to put that on devs for a Switch Pro console.

Anyway regular Xavier Soc is way too big. There is thr Xavier NX chip that has a 15 watt mode with 384 cuda cores and runs at 845 GFLOPS GPU . But the soc is still big for the switch.

I wouldn't bet on a 7nm for shrink to fit it offer a 60% performance boost to reach to 1.4 TFLOPs like the original Xavier does either.

As for DLSS, likely not happening with the Xavier.

Stu


Eduardo

Fake this article .. AMD and samsung fabric Switch 2 .. 100% confirm...

In the official news it only refers to a hardware update nothing else .. since AMD and Nintendo have been talking about switch2 for what use RDNA 2 for some time.

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