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Leak: Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano with a 16:10 screen & Intel Tiger-Lake weighs less than 1 kg

Started by Redaktion, July 14, 2020, 17:04:08

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Redaktion

The mystery is finally solved, as a new leak has revealed almost all details about the new Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano. The upcoming ThinkPad flagship will feature Intel Tiger-Lake CPUs, a extremely lightweight chassis that weighs less than 1 kg - and a 13 inch 16:10 screen. Seemingly, the new ThinkPad laptop is made to compete with Dell's XPS 13 9300.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Leak-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Nano-with-a-16-10-screen-Intel-Tiger-Lake-weighs-less-than-1-kg.481319.0.html


Benjamin Herzig


fdsasdas

Quote from: amdfan on July 14, 2020, 17:08:04
We want AMD -_-
AMD needs to move its a** and do something.
This laptop, just so you know is made with a big contribution from Intel, so if AMD wants similar products they need to put their a** at work and design these sort of machines.
Stop crying like woosies cause Intel is working harder and invested A LOT of money, time and engineering resources to create these products, not the OEMs.
Read about project Athena and you'll understand how far away from reality with your stupid we want amd comment you really are.
What AMD was able to do is some 14inch laptops that weigh 1.5kg and run hot like crazy or the better example, Dell G5 which clearly is built with AMD involvement and you can see the result. Thick, hot, loud and shitty battery life.


Anonym

Quote from: LHPSU on July 14, 2020, 17:53:40You find me a 9W AMD CPU.
There are some in the Ryzen Embedded line, but why is that even relevant? The specs of X1 Nano clearly state a 15W CPU, so why must AMD outperform Intel by that much?

S.Yu


Anonym

Quote from: S.Yu on July 14, 2020, 18:36:28
Ah ha, because TGL has vPro.
Too few ports but otherwise impressive looking package.
Ryzen Pro not only has a vPro equivalent (AMD DASH), but also features full RAM encryption (not just in the SGX enclave) and even has ECC memory support built into the silicon (while in Intel you'll need a Xeon).

winston

Hurr durr ryzen this ryzen that, wtf is up with neckbeards these days. Who gives a F about the CPU. That's not the bottleneck. If at all, it's the thermal throttling. Get an ARM then and get a life!

Nemo7

Quote from: fdsasdas on July 14, 2020, 17:49:28
Quote from: amdfan on July 14, 2020, 17:08:04
We want AMD -_-
AMD needs to move its a** and do something.
This laptop, just so you know is made with a big contribution from Intel, so if AMD wants similar products they need to put their a** at work and design these sort of machines.
Stop crying like woosies cause Intel is working harder and invested A LOT of money, time and engineering resources to create these products, not the OEMs.
Read about project Athena and you'll understand how far away from reality with your stupid we want amd comment you really are.
What AMD was able to do is some 14inch laptops that weigh 1.5kg and run hot like crazy or the better example, Dell G5 which clearly is built with AMD involvement and you can see the result. Thick, hot, loud and shitty battery life.

Totally agree. AMD fanboys always ask for handouts. Remember when they were mad at OEMs for not including Thunderbolt in more AMD laptops without knowing that thunderbolt is an Intel innovation. They should be glad that Intel is allowing everyone including AMD to use it in the first place. Intel even donated the TB3 to the latest USB4 standard to help the industry adaption. On the otherhand AMD took the open source HyperTransport, did some tweaking and made proprietary vendor-locked Infinity Fabric out of it. Pathetic!

123

Quote from: Nemo7 on July 14, 2020, 22:23:20
Remember when they were mad at OEMs for not including Thunderbolt in more AMD laptops without knowing that thunderbolt is an Intel innovation. They should be glad that Intel is allowing everyone including AMD to use it in the first place. Intel even donated the TB3 to the latest USB4 standard to help the industry adaption.
TB3 is a vulnerability-riddled mess - just like Intel CPUs.

Speculative execution flaws go back to first Pentiums. They were criticized back in 1995, yet Intel did nothing to address the problem all those years until it bombed in 2018. One could say Intel betrayed their customers.

While I have no big love for AMD, they provide the most reasonable alternative to flawed Intel products at this point. From security standpoint, current AMD CPUs are designed better. For starters, they support full memory encryption unlike Intel, whose CPUs even in 2020 encrypt small enclave of memory at best, via SGX - which itself is a vulnerability-ridden mess.

You may not care about security of your machines. Great that it works for you. For some people, and especially institutions, security does matter a lot.

Aaron

says <999kg on the slide lol.
on a more serious note though, really wonder how the thermals will be. I've never been convinced that anything thin and light can have good thermals


_MT_

Quote from: 123 on July 15, 2020, 00:36:12
Quote from: Nemo7 on July 14, 2020, 22:23:20
Remember when they were mad at OEMs for not including Thunderbolt in more AMD laptops without knowing that thunderbolt is an Intel innovation. They should be glad that Intel is allowing everyone including AMD to use it in the first place. Intel even donated the TB3 to the latest USB4 standard to help the industry adaption.
TB3 is a vulnerability-riddled mess - just like Intel CPUs.
...
While I have no big love for AMD, they provide the most reasonable alternative to flawed Intel products at this point. From security standpoint, current AMD CPUs are designed better. For starters, they support full memory encryption unlike Intel, whose CPUs even in 2020 encrypt small enclave of memory at best, via SGX - which itself is a vulnerability-ridden mess.
FireWire suffered from the same vulnerability. It comes with RDMA. Great for performance, bad for security. It was a well known issue. Dealing with it costs money. And it wasn't seen as important enough. To customers. Because they ultimately pay for it. And the solution was a side effect - it was primarily about sandboxing virtual machines. It's a similar story with credit cards, for example. They only put out fires that actually burn them.

Full memory encryption is not the solution. You can find papers on that topic. And in particular Epyc's memory encryption was breached. Again, this feature is aimed at virtualization. I don't share hardware so I don't feel the heat of these problems as much.


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