Microsoft announces a trio of devices with the Surface Headphones 2, Surface Go 2 and Surface Book 3

[Redaktion]

Launched alongside the Surface Earbuds, the Surface Headphones 2, Surface Go 2 and Surface Book 3 will all start shipping later this month. The Surface Book 3 makes the jump to Ice Lake-U processors and up to a Quadro RTX 3000 GPU too, but there is no AMD Ryzen version as there is with the Surface Laptop 3.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-announces-a-trio-of-devices-with-the-Surface-Headphones-2-Surface-Go-2-and-Surface-Book-3.464200.0.html

[Alessandro Pino]

What does

Noise Cancellation   Up to 30 dB for active noise cancellation
Up to 40 dB for passive noise cancellation

even mean? Just for one frequency? It is misleading at best.

[Maciej Eckstein]

If the batteries in SB3 will be glued down like in my SB2 those products are incredible waste of money.  A 4k Euro laptop is basically garbage after 2 years and 240 cycles on the battery that now has about 30% capacity.

And the problem is that both batteries  (screen and base) need to be in mint condition to be able to run anything demanding on battery. 

A GIS visualization on the GPU needs 100W of power, and now it immediately crashes laptop (GPU disconects) as one of the batteries  is failing.

[_MT_]

If the batteries in SB3 will be glued down like in my SB2 those products are incredible waste of money.  A 4k Euro laptop is basically garbage after 2 years and 240 cycles on the battery that now has about 30% capacity.

And the problem is that both batteries  (screen and base) need to be in mint condition to be able to run anything demanding on battery. 

A GIS visualization on the GPU needs 100W of power, and now it immediately crashes laptop (GPU disconects) as one of the batteries  is failing.

Either you're doing something terribly wrong (and I have met people capable of killing a battery under a year), you've got a faulty unit or Microsoft uses utter trash for their batteries.

A battery is considered at the end of its life when it reaches 80 % of nominal capacity. When a manufacturer claims a battery has a lifespan of 1000 cycles (a good consumer electronics grade Li-ion), it shouldn't drop below 80 % before 1000 cycles. Even a piece of trash consumer battery should manage about 250-300 cycles before dropping below 80 %. If your battery is at 30 %, of course it can't support the current required. It's not a battery, it's a paperweight.

[Lum Dërmaku]

configuring them with an i7 10710U would make so much more sense instead of the 4 core Ice Lake one. Maybe they did it because it is a 10nm vs 14nm chip which might improve a bit on power consumption? Or maybe because those who will use it in tablet mode and do gpu-bound work on it will see an improvement with the iris plus g7 vs the uhd 630?